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13 responses to “Toronto Golf Club: When is it a restoration and when is it something else (RCGA seminar edition)”

  1. Gary Slatter

    PAGING LEO BRADSHAW
    Will somebody call LEO BRADSHAW, a long time member and a very smart golfer, and ask him to comment?

  2. Matt

    I’m cautiously optimistic that the changes will make TGC a ‘better’ golf course. As pointed out at the seminar, TGC is not a course that Colt would have spent a great deal of time at, so I don’t think the reno will destroy a key Colt work, relatively speaking. The fact that the routing and majority of greens are still intact is the most important thing, IMO.

  3. Jeff Currie

    Any significant changes to the 18th hole? To me, that was TGC’s biggest flaw. I always felt like playing TGC was like having the most delicious steak and saving a piece of fat for your last bite.

  4. Paul Turner

    Rob

    If the club wanted something authentic, then rather than going to the UK to check out some Colt courses, they’d have been better off going down the road and checking out the detailed Colt drawings at Hamilton. It’s pretty clear what style of trap he wanted and it wasn’t like those done by Hawtree.

    Matt

    Colt spent more time at Toronto than most think. He made 3 visits in 1911, 1913 and 1914 with reports. And his partner Alison made visits in the 1920s.

  5. phil

    Paul would have been a better addition to the roundtable than ol’ john smith – who plays at a Thompson course, and has affiliation with the Thompson (read: NOT COLT) Society.

    thanks for the info Paul.

  6. William Newton

    Phil (whomever you are): for the record, the seminars are co-sponsored by the Thompson Society. I do not believe there is a Colt Society, at least not a Canadian chapter. Smith not only represents the Society but is an expert in many restoration matters, or whatever you want to call it. And who is Paul? Ain’t blogging fun. You don’t need to leave a full name, just a first name or handle, and you get an unchallenged opportunity to be nasty. It is a very professional medium.

  7. phil

    “Bill”,

    Yes, as RT (Robert Thompson) suggested, I was referring to Paul Turner. With some minor research, you will find that there is Colt Association (http://www.coltassociation.co.uk). Whether or not they are based in Canada is as irrelevant as (Martin) Hawtree having a Canadian office (which he doesn’t).

    I’ll also note that i wasn’t the first to take a (perhaps cheap) shot at Mr. (John) Smith’s involvement. I suggest rereading the original article.

    Good day, Bill.

  8. William Newton

    Phil: I did read it. And that exactly is my point. Bloggers and those who respond too often take ‘cheap’ shots that do much more harm than good. Let’s leave it at that.

  9. phil

    RT: Sorry if you misinterpreted me. i was in whole-hearted agreement with your assessment of Mr. Smiths involvement… just didn’t want to be the only one taking the heat! and my shot was admittedly cheaper than yours.

    Bill: cheers.

  10. ilike

    sadf

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