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6 responses to “$22M Burning a Hole in Your Pocket: Buy Grand Niagara Resort”

  1. Colin G

    Played the course a couple weekends ago for the first time. It was in nice shape and I enjoyed my round. I think we paid @ $60 for our round. For that price, I have no bones to pick. As mentioned in the article, it is fine but certainly doesn’t excite one as a round is played. We all know there is an over supply especially in Niagara and at the high end. I think a lot of the development in Niagara from casinos to hotels to golf courses was started when we had a different dollar and Buffalo had a better economy. Between supply, the dollar,and the general economy, it will be interesting to see how things develop in the area.

    In terms of the real estate development, ideas and paper are fairly inexpensive….I have plenty of both!

    As an aside, the day I played, we were going to choose from this course and a RTJ course across the border, Glen Oak, which was charging $30 for a round. As it turned out we couldn’t get the tee time we wanted so we played Grand Niagara.

    I am also surprised there haven’t been more transactions. Another course of note is Seguin Valley which shut down this year? Not sure what the status is. We also saw Coppinwood change over. Perhaps by spring there will be a few more.

    Colin

  2. Big Steve

    A very nice course to be sure though I would agree that there was nothing so outstanding about the track that would make it a weekly must play.

    Given the extremely bad economy in the NF area it would seem to be many years before that vacant land has “residential” value.

    Have been told that one Southern Ontario private course has been decimated by resignations and opening in 2010 is not a certainty.

    This could be a nuclear winter for many marginal courses.

  3. henrye

    Sounds like an ambitious project that was concocted during boom times. They’re certainly not alone – look at Dubai! As for the pricetag, it sounds high, but I have no idea what land in that area is currently selling for. I guess the hope is that someone will bring some equity capital to the table and can wait for a rebound when a project like this may make sense. I suspect the lender is both willing to write their loan down and do a vendor-take-back if someone is willing to put up some dough. At 600 approved units (You could likely change the type of units) that amounts to about $37K per unit, which doesn’t sound completely crazy.

  4. Charlie, a frequent player says

    I have played a number of rounds at the Grand Niagara and it has always been in top condition. “Staying power” is the name of the game for these guys with the new convention centre coming into the Fallsview area, a Wallmart Super Centre and 750,000 of retail going up at the next interchange – if only these guys could hang in there for a few more years.

    I understand that the site also has a decommissioned CP rail line connecting it directly to the Niagara casino … now that would be some service if they could ever get the homes built.

  5. Homer

    It will be interesting if Clublink or Golf North make a bid for this course? Maybe the owners next year offer a golf and meal package such as Wodden Sticks do. Would pay over $100+ if this offer was available.
    RT- How are the reno’s comming along at TG???

  6. Reality Check

    Richard Pryor’s character in “Brewsters Millions” wouldn’t pay 22 million for that place.

    How many clublink shares can you get for $22.5 mill??

    RT.

    It doesn’t seem like they are really trying to sell it by listing at 22 million….will it go to auction?

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