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13 responses to “Review: Hamilton G&CC (Ancaster, Ont.)”

  1. phil

    RT:

    you say that any of Doak, friend of the blog I.A. or Hanse would “have a more sympathetic historical approach to the course.”

    what makes you say this? are you familiar with Ault Clarks’ work/approach to historical courses? Support your rather bold statement please.

  2. Slammer

    Robert,

    Good post/review. I love the par 5′s

  3. ian andrew

    Is the bottom picture really Augusta National?

  4. Matt

    Great photos Rob. One day, we’ll get out there! ;)

  5. phil

    thanks rt… i too thought it was odd that Ault Clark scored this work, especially understanding the the potential competitions’ qualifications (doak et al.). were these other firms interviewed?

    i would think HGCC might stray away from branding the short course as a “replica” – an awful term when considering anything remotely artistic (see: Wooden Sticks). perhaps “inspired by” or “in the spirit of” as an alternative… but hey, i guess thats why Tom Clark is doing the work and we’re writing on blogs. (or worse, COMMENTING on blogs)

  6. Slammer

    easy Phil – its a short course not a new 18….for 75 to 150 yard holes its not really a big idea. I am sure you haven’t even see the property.

  7. grumpy

    Considering your remarks regarding Tom Clark’s abilities, it seems odd to me that you would give such generous comments regarding two of the greens that he has built there, namely the 3rd green, which you describe as a magnificent landscape, and the 6th hole, which you describe as stunning

    I agree with you regarding the grassing lines, but they were mandated by the PGA tour people.
    They are presently doing the same thing at St. Georges..

    Also, one of the recognized “experts” besides the ones you named, Martin Hawtree, who is responsible for the reworking of Toronto Golf Club, worked with Tom Clark at Ault Clark before going back to England to work with his father.

  8. GreensGuy

    I think the idea of a replication short course is a fantastic idea.

  9. winn grips

    I think favoring the left side of the fairway on the 18th hole brings the left greenside bunkers more into play and therefore is not the best angle into the green. It may be the shortest distance as the hole doglegs slightly to the left and as is most often the case the highest risk is in the shortest approach. The angle into the green that has the widest entry without needing to flirt with the bunkers is from the right side.

  10. phil

    slammer:

    what? tell me what having “see (sic) the property” has anything to do with commenting on the concept for the design? or more accurately, commenting on the branding of the concept?

    you’re right, by the way, i haven’t seen the property, and clearly, you have. nice one-up-manship. give yourself a high-5. I can guarantee that you (or Tom Clark) didn’t walk out there and say “whoa! this screams Colt!” and if you did, you’re full of it.

    my seemingly innocuous comment was noting that “replication” rarely works – see: square pegs, round holes – rather, using existing styles/concepts/templates as inspiration or precedent, and massaging them into what your holy property gives you would likely produce better results, on a short course or long. perhaps too subtle. my bad.

    and maybe thats what Tom Clark is planning to do. if so, good on him. however, if thats the case he’s likely underselling his own talent by referring to it as a replica course.

  11. Golfer

    fair enough Phil…

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