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6 responses to “Five Questions with Ian Andrew on Bethpage: “The hardest course I have ever played.””

  1. Nick

    I read in Golf Digest that Tillinghast was only a consultant on Bethpage Black and that it was actually designed by Joe Burbeck an superintendant at the park. The article is pretty convincing. I’m surprised that a ‘golf historian’ like Ian Andrew would not know this.

  2. phil

    nick:

    don’t believe everything you read.. in GD, here, or otherwise.

    i’m sure Ian could run on about the tillie v. burbeck debate, if he so chose. fact is, we don’t really know, and Whitten tends to angle his articles to his way of thinking (which is what an opinion piece should do) rather than presenting an objective, research based opinion.

  3. Stan

    I take it this guy didn’t see Ogilvy blow up at the Memorial when his wedge ended up flying through the air and gouging out a hole in the green when it finally touched down. Also, I guess he doesn’t know about Geoff’s history of terrible anger problems and his intense efforts to deal with them with anger managment techniques. I don’t think patient is a word that can be used to describe Geoff Ogilvy, I also don’t think he’ll be in the hunt this week. IMO.

  4. ian andrew

    Nick,

    I think Tillie’s time on site was limited – but he was there. I would bet everything that the Black is completely his routing (the key) and his design. I do think Burbeck supervised the construction – just like Mr. Honeyman did here at Scarboro.

    Stan,

    I like the fact he already won the US Open at Winged Foot.

  5. Greg B.

    Stan, I dunno… I find Ogilvy a bit of an enigma at times but he was the only player other than Tiger that I was thinking about as a potential winner this week. Having already won the Open once (albeit under strange circumstances) I think he could do it again. I just have this funny feeling about him that he might pull it off.

  6. Stan

    Ya I guess anything is possible, like anybody from the past COULD win again, you know Ernie did win a couple of these things – I just don’t see him doing it again. Ogilvy CAN win this week, he’s not my pick, but I was pointing out that he actually doesn’t have a history of being patient, he has a history of medically documented anger problems for which he has had to seek professional help to try and keep it from affecting his golf game.

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