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Going for the Green

Robert Thompson's comments, criticism and opinion on the world of golf.

11 responses to “Course Preview: Old Macdonald at Bandon Dunes Resort”

  1. MTP

    Robert:

    Thanks for the summary. I find it interesting that you seemed to enjoy the two non-Mac-template holes best (7 & 14). Also curious is that both are WELL uphill. Its obviously more difficult to build a good uphill hole than a downhill one.

    Do you think this might be a case of expectation management? or lack thereof? By this I mean do you get up on the tee of the Biarritz and say “whoa.. this is cool, but not like I thought”.

    or perhaps a better example is the Cape. did you have the idea/theory of a cape hole too built up in your mind to remove yourself enough to evaluate? for the record, MacDonald’s Cape @ NGLA (in its current form) is likely one of the weaker holes there. How did the Cape green strike you at Old Mac? How does that compare to NGLA?

    Thinking out loud more than anything.
    Cheers, MTP.

  2. MTP

    one more thing… what did you expect on the Road hole tee shot? certainly not a hotel.

  3. Offended Waffle House patron

    That 7th looks like a million bucks. Sure makes me want to go back, anyway …

  4. TV

    Did you hear Copper Creek is guaranteeing 4.5 hour rounds?

    That one is for you Phillip :)

  5. philip

    well played TV. well played.

  6. Tighthead

    Philip,

    I will balance the count a little.

    Merging the two topics, I always book so far in advance at Bandon that every day we have the first time. Having the course open in front, playing in 3.5 with no effort is magical.

    As for Old Mac, I expect it will be magnificent, but I just want to play it, and I want to play it with as little advance notice as possible.

  7. philip

    Tighthead:

    I don’t understand your “as little advance notice as possible” comment. Are you referring to what MTP above was sort of talking of? expectation management?

  8. Tighthead

    Philip – I like to hear some general comments before I play a course, but I don’t want to have the opinions and prejudices of other people rattling around in my head. It’s not so much about managing expectations, but keeping my mind open to what unfolds before me.

  9. Dave

    Played the 10 hole “preview” today (April 26th) and absolutely loved it. When I played it the wind was blowing (howling say 30 to 40 mph would be a more appropriate description) the prevailing way. It made 6 and 7 especially difficult. 7 in particular was a bear. It is only 360 yards from the regular tees, but there was no way I was getting there in 2. To put that in perspective, hole 11 is maybe 80 yards longer into the same wind and I hit both driver and 3 wood absolutely on the screws and got there – barely. Such is the elevation change on 7. Of the holes we played I’d rank them as follows – which is obviously subjective. The only hole I really didn’t love was 9 – which I thought was a bit pedestrian when playing with the wind. The yardages I give are regular tees. I’m told the course can play as long as 7100 – which is quite a bit longer than Bandon Dunes.

    8 – The hole is 165 yards long. You are way up on a hill going down to a massive green. The wind makes it a very nervy hole. It played every bit of 165 despite the elevation change. The green has this huge swale in it. Very fun hole to play out and to putt.
    7 – Massive elevation rise. I couldn’t get there in 2 with the wind howling in my face. Fantastic green. Unbelievable views of the ocean. It will be a tale of two holes depending on which way the wind blows.
    4 – 465 yard par 4. We played it downwind. You have to keep that tee shot to the left side of the fairway or you’ll have a blind shot into the green. And there are two sizeable bunkers in the fairway to keep you from scrubbing it too far along the ground with a second shot. Quite a bit of left to right slope on this green. Very fun hole.
    11 – You need to think about how best to play this one off the tees. Bunkers along the right side and the fairway does run out of room on the left. Good hole. Green is very wide but not very deep. 440 yard par 4. I’m not a “huge” hitter and I managed to get there in 2 just barely. Deep pot bunker protects part of the green.
    14 – This one will play different depending on the wind. Into the wind it is a dog leg left. With the wind you may want to go for the green but if you fall short you are going to be in a big collection of traps. Huge elevation change again – the hole plays uphill all the way. Enormous green. Don’t be short, the ball is coming back down if you are. Very fun green to putt as well – to be honest they all are.
    10 – The approach here is key. You want to stay to the left. 440 with the wind when I played it. When you are going into the wind it will be a very challenging hole. With the wind a series of traps come into play.
    5 – Short hole with a green unlike any I’ve ever seen. 120 yards maybe. Anyone with a handicap under 20 is going to hit the green. It’s that big. But it slopes severely back to front. It’s like you are hitting into a giant target. The green sort of has a series of tiers. So you do need accuracy with that tee shot less you don’t have a great way to get close with your putt. I suspect this hole will actually be a favorite of many.
    3 – Blind tee shot to a green that is way down a hill. With the wind and a decent handicap I think you have to find a way to make par here. I dumped out my tee shot with a big fade and was sitting 70 yards from an enormous green. I dumped a mediocre half wedge on the green and two putted from 40 feet. When playing INTO the wind this hole would be totally different. Fun hole, but not the toughest one out there.
    6 – Into the wind this hole was a complete bear. There’s a huge bunker in the middle of the fairway. But seeing as how hard the wind was blowing I wasn’t even tempted to go over it with my approach. I just dumped around it and then chipped on.
    9 – Agree with the author on this one. Green has some sand around it. And a tee shot right will get you in a bunker. But overall it was the hole that gave you the least to think about. I pushed my tee shot into a trap and dumped out a wedge right to the front of the green. 3 puts later I was home. 390 with the wind. Into the wind this hole will be another story though.

    Personally I found the course much more challenging than Pacific Dunes – which I played earlier the same day under similar wind conditions (howling). I liked it better than Trails and Bandon Dunes as well. I think it will perhaps play a bit harder than Bandon Dunes but not much as I thought Bandon offered much more resistance to scoring than Pacific. It is going to be harder than Trails – which I thought was the easiest of all the Bandon Courses just because the wind isn’t as brutal. Overall I think this one will be loved by all avid golfers.

    It is raw and wide open and as a result you really have to think through each and every shot as it is presented to you. The greens are gigantic. If I had to use two words to describe the course it would be “raw” and “authetic”. You almost feel like you are playing on what was once an open farmland where the sheep have knawed down the grass and someone has stepped out to carve up a green and select a decent flat place to call a tee box. It just feels very natural and highly authetic. And I mean that in a very positive way. It is very unique, unlike anything else in the States. I’m having a hard time envisioning golf afficionados not raving about this course. In fact when I think of all the Bandon courses I think this one will get the most consistent praise from golfers of all levels. For the really low handicapper (I’m not one) this will be considered the toughest of all the Bandon Courses because it can play so much longer than the others. Mid-handicapper like me should find it similar to Bandon Dunes in terms of difficulty. High handicappers – I’m not sure. The fact it is so open with huge greens will likely cause them to like this one best.

  10. phil

    hey dave,

    great review! thanks.

  11. Michael

    I can only dream of playing Old MacDonald. I sincerely hope that whoever has the opportunity to play this course understands the tradition of golf and they way McDonald designed golf courses to be played. His designs were to challenge the game of golf and the players ability. McDonalds designs tested your inner strength. He taught us to use imagination in our shot making and that you must know your game. Whether the hole is up hill or down hill play the game and enjoy the experience of being challenged by his sculpture of the land and not by 495 yard par 4’s. McDonald designs have lasted from wooden to grahite shafts.

    Michael

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