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11 responses to “Review: Mississaugua G & CC — New Greens a Way Forward?”

  1. WayneK

    Many of the private courses in Toronto have recently made substantial changes and there are also some good new courses such as Coppinwood. How much room is there in the Score rankings for all of these courses or will some of them be penalized by the problem of so many good courses in Toronto and the desire for some to have courses from other parts of the country also in the ratings?

    Mississauga should move up as should Scarboro. There is the addition of Eagle’s Nest to the list and perhaps Coppinwood (is it eligible for the top 100 or just best new?), either now or in the next ratings. Arguably there are courses in the list from other parts of the country that would not get consideration if they were in Toronto.

    To stir up some controversy – if Crowbush Cove were in Toronto then I don’t think it would make the Toronto top 10, never mind the Canadian top 10.

  2. Doug Angus-Lee

    In Ontario Golf’s Top 50 last year Mississauga ranked #22 a drop of just one spot from two years earlier despite new courese like Eagle’s Nest, Muskoka Bay and Coppinwood breaking onto the list.
    You can check out the list here http://www.golfontario.ca/sitepages/?cid=58

    Note: RT is on the panel for this top 50 ranking.

  3. phil

    rt (or anyone),

    do you know anything about how they assured the soil conditions at the mysterious sod farm replicated that at Mississauga?

  4. phil

    right of course. silly me for thinking some native soil might be involved.

  5. Steve Vanderploeg

    Hi Phil,

    The sod was ordered more than a year in advance of it being required for the project. When it was ordered there were specific requirements for the growing medium to be used. The sod was grown specifically for this project, and was inspected periodically by a turfgrass expert from the USGA who was hired by Mississaugua Golf & C.C. When the sod was shipped in to be installed on the greens there was no topsoil (or native soil) in the root zone at all, it was pure greens mix(sand), which resulted in it having to be handled a bit more gingerly than normal sod but payed huge dividends in getting the greens established. If you order your sod products early enough and are willing to pay the associated costs, you can have it grown in any soil you like.

    Steve Vanderploeg
    Carrick Design Inc.

  6. phil

    steve,

    thanks for your obviously well informed reply… that makes sense… but i can imagine that this process must be cost prohibitive to many or most!

  7. WayneK

    Phil – the alternative is no greens for a year – so the club decided it was worth it!

  8. Steve Vanderploeg

    To be honest, the extra costs associated with the sodding option are not that substantial relative to the overall cost of the project. What may be more difficult for some projects is to plan a year and a half or two years in advance to be able to order the correct amount of sod. It requires having most of the design work done that far in advance and feeling comfortable enough about the project to be able to put down a sizable deposit with the sod grower.

  9. gary slatter

    Wayne, I agree Crowbush would not make Toronto top 10.
    Unfortunately neither would The Carrick in Loch Lomond.

  10. cameron

    I have worked at the course for 2 years. Some members of my family work in the proshop as well. To be honest I think this course is very under-rated. Relating it to frankenstein or someone with too much plastic surgery is harsh. The work that has been done over 100 yrs does not make the course look un even. The greens were very small and still are but that adds difficulty. The greens are fast and the fairways are hilly and thats what makes it great.

    p.s. The picture titled hole #4 is really hole #3

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