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Robert Thompson's comments, criticism and opinion on the world of golf.

7 responses to “The Battle Against Slow Play”

  1. splat

    for the long game, I’ve switched my game to no practice swings or a quick swing away from the ball to make sure nothing’s tightened up. I still pre visualize the shot while I’m behind the ball walking up to address. some of my playing partners are up to three pre-swings and god forbid 4-5 practice swings

    Chipping, I’ll take one or two practice swings as it’s more feel.

    I do find I’m more deliberate with putting now, but with so many shots lost, it’s more important than the long shots into the green.

  2. Barry

    Three points on slow play:

    1. Why do people care about pace of play among pros? IMHO, playing slowly is not going to make me play as well as a pro and will just result in less time at the 19th hole or at home with family (both bad). Casual amateurs should just play faster. Do you really thing the 5th (or 1st for that matter) practice swing is going to improve your stroke at this point?

    2. Slow play seems like a “cultural” problem. When a club is committed to a culture of quicker play it seems to speed things up dramatically. I was a member of a club where the importance of playing fast was regularly emphasized and became ingrained in the cultural fabric of the club. For instance, all groups were timed off the 1st tee on weekend mornings and those that were not back to the 10th tee in 2 hrs were given an official warning. 2 warnings and the group was invited to tee off (only) after noon on weekends for 2 months. Once members knew that they were expected to complete a round in 4 hours they figured out how to do it on a very consistent basis (very few warnings needed to be issued). Half the problem seems to be players don’t have any idea that they should be able to complete a round in 3 1/2 or 4 hours.

    3. Why hasn’t a public course embraced quicker play as a comparative advantage? I think this would involve advertising that the course was committed to a pace of play of (say) 4:15 and advertising accordingly. Golfers could be notified at the time of booking a tee time that they should come only if they can finish in 4 hours and will be expected to leave the course after (say) 4:15. This could be reinforced at the time of check in so there is no confusion about priorities. I think that there are enough players around that are exasperated with 5 1/2 hour rounds that they would embrace the idea immediately. From the club’s perspective they would have a differentiating strategy, they might be able to fit more people on the course if everyone was moving along a little more quickly, everyone would enjoy their round more and players might stick around longer in the clubhouse if they were finished their round more quickly. Just a thought.

  3. Brian

    I’d be a faster player if I didn’t lose so many balls.

  4. Weekend Enthusiast

    Slow play has been talked about for years. A lot of talk…no action. Too many forces condone slow play…everything from pros who model the behaviour for the weekend hacker to ingrained habits that are hard to break (the 3 swinger before lining up for the strike) to the inherent self centred nature of many players (we all know them – complainers of slow play who are the worst offenders themselves!) to the reluctant clubs and public courses who do not want to offend their membership or paying customers who choose to play slowly.

    In the club environment where members are accountable to one another and the club promotes a fast play culture (Toronto Golf Club anyone?), the issue tends to be mute. In public courses without regulars, slow play is prevalent.

    Not sure what the solution is other than club and public courses who choose to enforce fast play through various means.

    If enforcement of fast play is really a money maker (as noted by a previous post), I suspect that more courses would have adopted this approach. The fact that they have not leads me to think that this assumption may be inaccurate. Or alternatively, courses are not willing to deal with the resultant bad press from the 4 ball that is forced to skip a hole or be thrown off the course.

  5. Dick

    By reading Mr. Dawson’s answers it is obvious he is either not doing his job, or does not give a damn.
    Amateur golfers learn both good and bad habits by watching the pros; when the pro plumb bobs a one foot putt, the next week you will see joe six pack doing the same thing. The same thing goes for “shot visualisation” and the practice swings mimicing the anticipated shot–think Immellman.
    If I owned a public golf course, I would set a price schedule based on the amount of time it took the group to play 18 holes.
    If my green fee was $60 for an anticipated or mandated 4 hour round, and the group finished 24 minutes early or in just over 3.5 hours, I would refund them the 10% of their fee they paid for finishing 10% faster. Just a though, but something has to be done and it is obvious that the R&A nor the USGA and for that matter the RCGA do not have the balls to penalize the pros.

  6. Larry

    Like everyone else, I realize there is no one answer to why play has become so slow or one answer on how to fix it.
    I have been playing golf for 32 years, and slow play is definately more prevalent now than in the past. From my viewpoint, I see two factors that seem to come into play, while not dismissing the many more.
    Those who pay their money and with that feel they are within their rights to do as they wish on the course. They may be two holes behind the group in front, but do nothing to catch up. The cart girl comes by, but they still stop and purchase, falling another half a hole behind. An old golf ball is lost, but 5-10 minutes are spent looking for it. Oh, I see three balls in that pond, lets spend 5 minutes looking for balls. Etc.
    The increase in slow play by the pros, the those who feel the need to ‘copy’ the routines of the pros. With respect of the pros, I realize they are playing for huge sums of money, but how many times do you now see a pro mark a 1-2 foot putt? Pisses me off every time I see it.
    Can it be fixed? I am not sure!

  7. kerry

    It may help if on scorecards we had a spot for recording the time required to play and ONLY rounds played in under 4:15 or 4:30 were allowed to be posted for handicaps.
    The PGA Tour is essentially run by the players, so they are very unmotivated to do anything. Now if the USGA said all rounds in US Amatuer events had to be completed in 4:30 or 4:15 or scores do not count, things would change.
    Make it part of the rules, quit fooling around.

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